Thursday, October 18, 2012

Re-examinging Satire Definitions

Please carefully read and consider the following definitions and considerations of satire. Then, compose a comment that responds to the prompts/questions at the very bottom of the post. 

Satire is one of the oldest forms of literature and one of the most durable. A constructive art that seeks not
merely to destroy but to rebuild; the aim is to inspire reform.
  • humor + criticism = inspired reform
Satire is actually very conservative; it cherishes a sound society, good traditions, and wise, viable institutions. It values the general welfare and the public good, and it assumes that the audience is reasonably intelligent,
educated, and rational.
  • There's no point in appealing to fools; they won’t get it !
Satire Versus Sarcasm:
  • Satire – blend of criticism and humor for the purposes of CORRECTION OR IMPROVEMENT
  • Sarcasm – simple abuse, mockery, or verbal jest consisting of a series of ironic or insincere statements

Now, in a comment to this post, please respond to all of the following in a thoughtful, thorough, and insightful manner:
  • What do you think the first definition means when it states that satire is "durable?" (Explain)
  •  First, paraphrase the statement that satire is a "constructive art that seeks not merely to destroy, but to rebuild," then, explain how you see satire accomplishing that goal.
  • Why does the second definition call satire conservative? (Think about our political understanding of what it means to be conservative in this country--how does that relate to satire??)
  • Why is it important to make a distinction between satire and sarcasm?

49 comments:

  1. JAY
    1. It means that satire won't die out as an art form because it deals with current issues and is always relevant
    2. Paraphrase: Satire destroys something societal in order to rebuild it to be better. It does this by pointing out follies and vices in a humorous way
    3. Satire is conservative because it focuses on the wellbeing of society and values good traditions through its humor
    4. Because satire is to reform society with wit and humor while sarcasm is just an insult with no greater motive

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    1. Christine Ensch
      1. Satire continues to be present in today's literature and will stands the test of time.
      2. Satire isn't just used to hurt someone, but with using humor it pokes fun but still inspires for change to happen. When someone or something is the subject of a satiric piece of literature, they recognize and try to address the subject.
      3. Satire is pretty old fashioned, it has guidelines and it focuses on the wellbeing of society.
      4. Satire is used to inspire change, sarcasm is not. There needs to be a distinction because they can easily be confused.

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    2. 1.when i think of the word "durable" i think of something sturdy and strong, so when satire is refferd to as durable it means that it is lasting and indestructable.
      2. How i intepreted that piece of info was that satire isnt made to destroy a someone or a group of people but to mock their actions in a satiric manner. It also rebuilds people sense of humor.
      3.satire often times is catogorized as conservitive because it focuses on family values and the wellbeing of society.
      4.it sometimes is difficult to distinguish satire from sarcasm because they are two different types of funny. satire is used to change what is wrong in society and to inspire growth while sarcasm is just rude humor.

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  2. 1) Satire can be durable in the sense that it is lasting.It has a resistance to it that is hard to breakdown.
    2) The intention of satire is to build up rather than to breakdown. Satire may be insensitive and mean, but it has the potential to break barriers and bring people together.
    3) Satire can be conservative because there are specific guidelines as to what is satire and what is not. The audience and intelligence of the audience is also necessary when reading, watching, or listening to satire.
    4) Satire is to improve or correct, as stated above. The purpose of sarcasm is to mock or abuse containing ironic and insincere statements.

    Nick Lange

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  3. Garnell Muray
    1. When satire is said to be "durable" it simply means that satire isn't meant to be overwhelming toward the person or group it is dirercted.
    2. Satire doesn't use humor to bring the targeted audience down, instead it shows the audience that it is ok to laugh at themselves but it also suggest that a change should be made.
    3. Conservativity usually involves being independent in every aspect. Conservative people usually expect the same of others, which is why when satire is used it makes fun of the "stupid" and suggest whats "logical"
    4. Sarcasm is meant to be offensive, satire is meant to be "eye opening"

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  4. 1. It leaves a lasting impression and it's effect can be used and relevant for a long time.
    2. The goal of satire is to try to improve something that is wrong. Not simply get rid of it. Satire acheives this by calling things out that should be changed.
    3. That definition is basically what conservative ideas are.
    4. Satire is often more intelligent and serves a purpose.

    j0N@H m3!dL

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  5. In the definition of satire, durable means that satire can be taken in different ways, as criticism to humor, but it always holds the same meaning and doesnt back down.

    Satire helps people improve themselves rather than just shut them down, therefore it is a constructive art. Satire can accomplish this goal because it sometimes criticizes people and indirectly insults them but as they may not agree with it, they will come to a realization that they need to change what was just critisized.

    The second definition calls satire conservative because it generally likes to keep tradition and assumes that the audience is educated.

    It is important to make a distinction between sarcasm and satire because sarcasm is basically just insulting someone and satire is when you use humor and criticizm to to help improve others.
    -Alex Huebler

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  6. 1. When the first definition refers to satire as 'durable,' it means that satire is a form of commentary that has lasted for a long time and will be around for a long time in the future.
    2. In addition to mocking or tearing down a subject, satire seeks to cause change in the subject, usually for the better. It does this by exaggerating the subject's flaws so that they are easily identifiable.
    3. The second definition refers to satire as 'conservative' because it views satire as trying to preserve the values and morality of society.
    4. It is important to make a distinction between satire and sarcasm because sarcasm is entirely deconstructive, while satire seeks to prompt improvement in the subject.

    -Trevor Howard

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  7. -The first definition states that satire is "durable" and I believe this means that it is the most important factor in writing if you want to have the satiric devices stand out to the reader.

    -"constructive art that seeks not merely to destroy, but to rebuild" simply means that satiric writing is used to make the writing a stronger piece overall. Satire accomplishes this goal by using numerous satiric devices that not only make the piece stronger, but help make the piece humorous and understandable to the reader.

    -The second definition states that satire is conservative because it assumes that the reader is smart enough to be able to pick out satire in different pieces of writing. Satire also strives to have wise instructions, good traditions/society, etc.

    -It is important to make a distinction between satire and sarcasm because both are exaggerated, humorous devices but have different meanings. You may get the wrong idea out of the piece of writing if you cannot distinguish between satire or sarcasm.

    Kiara Klink!

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  8. What do you think the first definition means when it states that satire is "durable?" (Explain)
    Satire may be durable because if its purpose is to inspire change, then the changes made would be proof of the satire.
    First, paraphrase the statement that satire is a "constructive art that seeks not merely to destroy, but to rebuild," then, explain how you see satire accomplishing that goal.
    Satire is a form of creativity that attempts to break down and then build back up. Satire takes a situation and unravels it until it is in its most basic form. Then the situation is reconstructed to portray it in a different way, in a way that brings out its flaws and provokes changes.
    Why does the second definition call satire conservative? (Think about our political understanding of what it means to be conservative in this country--how does that relate to satire??)
    Satire prefers a "sound society". It wants traditions and morals that are long-standing, and this is the true root of conservatism.
    Why is it important to make a distinction between satire and sarcasm?
    Sarcasms only purpose is to destroy, whereas satire seeks change.
    -Ella Arnold

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  9. 1.satire is durable because it has lasted longer then most types of writing and it also means that it satire will not go away.
    2. The statement is saying that in the way satire is written is not to desrtoy our ideals but only to build uponthem or just to rethink our views of society.
    3.satire is refered to as conservative in the second definition because satire is trying to save and preserve the morality and values in our society.
    4. It is important to make a distinction between satire and scarcasm becase satire is witty and just poking fun at something as a whole when scarcasm is directly aimed at a single person or thing.

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  10. 1.satire is durable because it has lasted longer then most types of writing and it also means that it satire will not go away.
    2. The statement is saying that in the way satire is written is not to desrtoy our ideals but only to build uponthem or just to rethink our views of society.
    3.satire is refered to as conservative in the second definition because satire is trying to save and preserve the morality and values in our society.
    4. It is important to make a distinction between satire and scarcasm becase satire is witty and just poking fun at something as a whole when scarcasm is directly aimed at a single person or thing.

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  11. When the first definition states that satire is "durable" it means that satire is the most important and "strongest" if you want the piece of writing to be humorous.
    Satire is something that rebuilds and connects people together in a humorous way. Satire accomplishes by bringing people together and making people think.
    The second definition calls satire conservative because sometimes you have to search for satire in different pieces of writing and sometimes it's hidden, so it could be conservative because it's more subtle. Also, if someone or something is conservative then they don't like the thought of change, so if someone were to do a parody of something they would slightly alter it so it's not completely different then the original.
    It's important to make a distinction between satire and sarcasm because they both have their own separate ways to define both of them. Satire is a blend of humor and criticism, and sarcasm is a blend of mockery and insincere statements.
    Rachel RIChey


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  12. -Satire is durable because it is humorus and people enjoy humor. It also seeks not only to destroy pieces of society but rebuild them.
    -Satire criticizes the flaws of society but not just to criticize, satire does this with the intent to evoke change.
    -Satire is conservative because it cherishes a sound society, good traditions, and wise, viable institutions. It values the general welfare and the public good.
    -Satire is different from sarcasm because it creates humor with a goal of change in mind while sarcasm is just mockery.

    Steffen Uhrich

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  13. Satire is durable because it can escape any criticism because it is inherently funny. rather than take the full heat of critique it can shrug of any accusation of controversy.
    rather than just destroying an institution from the inside by ridiculing it, Satire aims to tear down key flaws within an idea or subject, and urges the subject to change that.
    Like social conservatism, satire aims to repeal the controversial aspects of today and regain the traditional society beneath it.
    satire differs from sarcasm because it is in a much broader context, and only attacks certain aspects of something, allowing an institution to improve upon its mistakes. Sarcasm simply attacks and insults an aspect that is seen as unpleasant.
    - Ian Reid -

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  14. 1. It will not change over time. It can always be funny.
    2. A skill that tears down and builds back up. It can work from both ways, you can make fun of someone and feel good doing it.
    3. Satire is very within itself, it doesn't branch out.
    4. Sarcasm is more mean than satire

    Jacob Martin

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  15. 1. Satire is durable because the definition will not change over time. There will always be something in society that needs to be improved, and satire can be used to pint that out to people.
    2. It means that the point of satire is to help improve something not to just criticize. Satire will complete that because it will point it out to people, and make them realize what they're doing to wrong.
    3. Satire is conservative because people view of what is good for society and what isn't can differ from person to person. It's not very open minded it's very one sided. It's what they think is right and that's it.
    4. It's important because satire is to help improve something, and sarcasm is to just criticize something.

    -Valerie Armstrong

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  16. 1. Satire is durable because satire has lasted a lot longer than other types of writing because people enjoy humor, so it won't go away.
    2. Satire doesn't use humor to bring its audience down, instead it shows the audience that its okay to laugh at themselves but also suggest that a change should be made.
    3. Satire is conservative because it focuses on values, good traditions, etc. through its humor.
    4. Satire is used to reform society with wit and humor and just to poke fun while sarcasm is just an insult with no greater motive

    -Mikala Spencer

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  17. 1. Satire is durable because it can last for a very long time and it can always be funny regardless of the culture and time period.
    2. Satire not only destroys something by making fun of an issue, but also rebuilds it by looking for a way to find change and build society's views of that issue.
    3. Satire is conservative because there are specific things that outline writing as being satirical and the audience needs to be aware and understanding of those things.
    4. Sarcasm and satire are different because while saracsm is simply mocking something where satire has a purpse in changing society's views on something.

    Derek Wulff

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  18. 1) Satire can be durable in the sense that it lasts a long time.It always has the ablity to be funny during any time period.
    2) The intention of satire is to build up rather than to breakdown.In addition to mocking or tearing down a subject, satire seeks to cause change in the subject, usually for the better.
    3) Satire can be conservative because it focuses on breaking down whats wrong with our society and coreecting it
    4) Satire is to improve or correct through humor. The purpose of sarcasm is to mock or insult a person or belief.
    Vince Kuranz

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  19. 1) Satire is durable because there are always things to criticize in people and/or society so there will always be things to correct
    2) Satire's only purpose isn't destruction, because in the humorous way it does so it also rebuilds by directly implying an alternative
    3) Satire is conservative because its purpose is to reinstate/reconstruct what is amiss in society, therefore it values tradition and morals
    4) Satire and sarcasm have important differences because sarcasm is blatantly rude without apparant purpose whereas satire's purpose is to achieve change through possibly rude humor

    Carly Amstadt

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  20. - Satire lasts over time; it will always be effective in changing things that the satirist is critical of in a humorous manner.

    - It seeks to change, not destroy. By presenting criticisms, the viewer, if guilty of what the satirist is critical of, will try to change his or her ways so that they aren't ridiculed anymore. It's meant to improve rather than force someone to give up.

    - Satire tries to preserve a good, sound society, and isn't interested in bringing anyone lower.

    - Sarcasm has no purpose other than insulting someone, where satire tries to instill change.

    Nick Hill

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  21. 1. It means that Satire can withstand time, meaning you can still go back and find the point it was trying to get across.
    2.Satire is not out there to insult or make fun of but also to incite change. Satire accomplishes this by getting people to laugh at something to get the person or group to rethink its ideas.
    3.It is conservative because it works to better the society,and assumes that the audience is intellegent.
    4.It is important to make a distinction between sarcasm and satire because not all sarcasm is satire and not all satire is sarcasm.


    Logan Schmidt

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  22. 1. Satire is durable because it aims to go after items that are relevant. It also aims to go after parts of society that are durable so that pieces of satire will still be funny in the future.
    2. Satire targets parts of society that has flaws in an effort to highlight these flaws. The hope is once these flaws are noticed, there will be changes.
    3. Satire can be considered conservative because of its characteristics. Just like the conservative political point of view, satire focuses on achieving what is best for the common good.
    4. The goal of satire is to reform a flawed system. The goal of sarcasm is more to point out something that is wrong and poke fun at it, simply for the goal mocking it.

    Zoey Stefaniak

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  23. 1. Satire is durable in the fact that it correlates with today's culture, whether it is politics or pop culture, the humor never goes out of style despite the time change.

    2. Satire is a skill that can make fun of something, to make your side/view look better. So the fact that it can go both ways makes satire especially artful.

    3. The second definition considers satire conservative because it focuses on the overall success of society, good traditions and values through its humor for an educated audience.

    4. Satire seems to prove the speaker's point, with the idea to possibly change the audiences' minds, while sarcasm is rude mockery.

    Jordy Schmidt

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  24. 1. satire is durable because it is always dealing with current issues and world issues will always be relevant.and when you criticise an issue and use satire to make the issue more apparent the result is change.
    2. Satire is not used to breakdown its used to build up. it can be mean and harsh at times however the overall goal of satire is to point out and issue and make it better.
    3. the second definition refers to satire as conservative because it cherishes a sound society, good traditions and the audience has to be intelligent enought to understand that it is satire.
    4. Sarcasm is simple abuse, mockery, or verbal jest consisting of a series of ironic or insincere statements however satire is used to make an overall correction not to just put down.
    sydney Croft

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  25. 1. Satire is considered durable because it remains constantly popular over time. Unlike other genres, Satire won't fade in popularity, and will never run out of topics since human faults will always exist.
    2. The point of satire is not just to criticize or insult people, it has a purpose, which is to help people realize and change their faults. Satire accomplishes this by pointing out the ridiculousness of their faults through humor to encourage change.
    3. Satire is conservative because it isn't extremely harsh and does not mean to interfere with someone's life if they don't want to change that fault. This is similar to the political conservative since they believe in minimal government interference in life, and instead just guidance. Satire offers a humorous way of pointing out something that could be changed but does not force the issue.
    4. It is important to see the difference between the two because satire is meant to have a purpose, while sarcasm is just criticism.
    --Sadie Newholm

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  26. 1. When satire is said to be "durable" it means that satire isn't meant to be overwhelming toward the person or group it is dirercted.
    2. Satire doesn't use humor to bring the targeted audience down, instead it shows the audience that it is ok to laugh at themselves but it also suggests that a change should be made.
    3. Conservativity usually involves being independent in every aspect. Conservative people usually expect the same of others, which is why when satire is used it makes fun of something "stupid" and suggest whats "logical"
    4. Sarcasm is meant to be offensive,while satire is meant to be "eye opening"

    Carson Taylor

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  27. > Satire is one of the most durable forms of literature because it is entertains the reader. It also reveals basic morals that last over time, even if the context becomes completely different.
    > While satire may mock ideas and situations, it's overall goal is to bring attention to a greater vice. It does this by making whatever is wrong with the situation evident to the reader.
    > Satire is called "conservative" in the second definition because they have similar morals. For example,they both support a sound society with good traditions and a viable institutions.
    > Making a distinction between sarcasm and satire is important because satire uses humor and criticism to bring attention to a vice, while sarcasm doesn't have a purpose greater than just to mock.

    Grace Petr

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  28. 1. Satire is durable in that it brings humor and laughs to a previously offensive topic or issue and intends to change it in order to make it better.
    2. satire is meant to bring out the ugly in order to improve it in the long run. it may destroy on the surface but underneath it will change for the better, with using humor to prevent offensive view points. i see satire as a humorous honesty to those it is directed and creates a thought of "oh right thats not good". this is shown by exaggeration to create more revealing knowledge that in other ways may not be seen.
    3. satire may be seen as conservative because it ultimately strives to protect the common good and change the society and its views to be more moral. it points out the wrong in the society that may be offensive or inccorect to hopefully change them.
    4.satire and sarcasm are similar in the way of humor and exaggeration. but satire is used to make a point and change something within a society using humor to make it less attacking. it is important to make a distinction between them because one is for the common good and the other is to critize something and mock it.

    Kenzie Bryant

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  29. -Humor is timeless. No matter the era, we use humor to get by, to make life enjoyable, and in the case of satire, to criticize and correct. Satire is durable because as a whole, we can always find something to laugh at. We are also always in need of reform in every aspect of our lives. Since satire is a blend of these, it allows us to do what we've done for millenniums: laugh and better ourselves.
    -Satire is the art of recreating while humoring. Satire is all about taking something, a vice or a folly of human nature, and laying it out for everyone to see. But rather than negatively criticize and denounce the vice/folly, satire (usually) gives constructive criticism with humor as its vehicle.
    -Like the conservative mindset, satire seems to cherish traditional values and promote the public good through creating a society that is rational, intelligent, informed and zealous.
    -The importance of the distinction of satire and sarcasm is a fairly simple one. Sarcasm seeks to destroy and mock, while satire has much more benign intentions. Being someone who is often very snarky and is a frequent user of sarcasm, I know just how important it is to be able to recognize the line between sarcasm and satire.

    Lauren Franklin

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  30. 1. Satire is something that will adapt and adjust over time to the day and age. Satire is usually accompanied by parodies and other elements which are able to adjust over the years as they involve everyday things.
    2. The statement is illustrating the concept that we need to make fun of, or question the way we do things, thus making them humorous, to further ourselves as a society.
    3. Satire can;t be conservative because it doesn't seek to destroy an idea, only question it, it wants less involvement in the thinking process.
    4. Satire and Sarcasm are similar and can be confused, sarcasm is usually insincere and more of mockery whilst Satire is simply pondering and or questioning the idea making it humorous.

    Kevin Maslanka

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  31. 1. Satire is durable because it can 'hold its own' among other forms of rhetoric, and also because it is one of the oldest forms, and many of its best examples are timeless.
    2.Satire breaks down the issue it addresses, and then constructs it in a way that will fit its purpose and illicit a response from the reader. By addressing an issue in a humorous way, the reader is more accepting of the author's views, and is more likely to adopt the social change implied.
    3.Satire is described as conservative because it is grounded in values, and works towards a goal for the common good.
    4. While sarcasm is FULLY mocking and derogatory, satire is constructed with a decent amount of thought to illicit change in attitude or action.
    -Sara Spry

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  32. Jaime Due
    1. Satire is a literary form that won't die out because there will always be issues and controversial topics and humor is a way to reach and appeal to a wider range of audiences.
    2. Satire not only mocks an issue, but it works to educate and persuade people to fix the issue.
    3. Satire is considered "conservative" because it doesn't simply bombard an issue recklessly in order to bring it down, it brings up the idea in a way that provokes thought and questions.
    4. Because satire tends to use a lot of sarcasm the two can be easily confused. It is important to distinguish between them because sarcasm is just an attack, but satire goes beyond that.

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  33. 1. Satire is considered durable because it can be funny during any time period. Satire changes over time and correlates with todays society.
    2.Paraphrase: Satire destroys or pokes fun at something, but always has the intention to use humor to hopefully make an impact or change on whatever issue it is refering to.
    3. Satire is considered conservative because it focuses on the well being of our society and tends to focus more on traditional values.
    4. Satire is used to inspire a change in our society on particular issues. Sarcasms purpose is to mock something or to be insincere.


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  34. Jacob Stolte

    1.Satire can be applied to any situation regardless of how serious the topic. Satire has many layers which further its ability to remain adaptive and relevant in any context even in today's ever-changing world.
    2. Satire breaks down and takes apart an issue or an idea and restructures it to emphasis flaws and issues. Satire, as previously stated, has many elements through highlighting follies of vices to be relative or angrily repeating a harsh point as is the case with invective satire. All these elements build to create a simplistic piece with profound meaning.
    3. Satire hopes to draw attention to a moral issue. Though often a humorous piece it is not the goal overall. In sarcasm the principles applied can be to humor or emphasize a condescending tone or quality. In short, satire has a deeper message then the traditional sarcastic tone or remark.

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  35. 1. Satire is usually written so that the writer provides him/herself with an out, or an escape, that they can fall back on if somebody interprets the satire incorrectly or takes offense to it. It is a timeless writing style and can always adapt to fit the topic, as well as the time period.
    2. This statement shows that satire doesnt just attack and condescend, like sarcasm, but actually shows itself as the WRONG example so that society can avoid anything close and instead act rational.
    3. Satire cherishes traditional family and community values, much as the conservative viewpoint usually does. It aims to improve society using these base morals, much as satire does.
    4. Sarcasm differs from satire by being more detrimental and accusative than satire. Satire aims to improve while sarcasm only aims to demoralize.

    Isaac Marti

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  36. 1. Satire is a method of evoking change, which makes it immediately appealing to those who want to inform the public of a problem that needs to be addressed. It is even more appealing because the humor part makes immediately appealing, as well as making it easy to change as society changes.
    2. Satire ridicules the aspects of society the author finds distasteful, but, because of the way it identifies these problems, also promotes change on these topics.
    3. Satire is conservative because it uses a conservative frame of reference, based on a widely accepted set of values to assure that the most people possible understand the satirical purpose. Authors using satire portray anything at odds with these views to be ridiculous and call for change.
    4. Satire is different from sarcasm because sarcasm is a tool used in satire. When used in that instance, it has a combined constructive and destructive effect; tearing down institutions or aspects of society while simultaneously building it up. All alone, however, with no uniting theme with other devices, sarcasm only serves its derisive purpose.

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  37. - Satire is durable because instead of hitting the reader with a lot of overwhelming information, it entertains. Not only that, there are many different ways satire can be directed, accomplished, and interpreted, making it extremely durable.
    - By saying that satire "doesn't destroy, it rebuilds" really describes the satiric writers' purposes. When writing satire, they usually don't start over on a whole new topic, they branch off of a controversial idea and go from there. Therefore, the are getting the point of the issue across, while incorporating humor and entertain, which in a sense, is rebuilding.
    - Satire concerns the well-being of society and traditions through its numerous forms of humor.
    - Satire is more of an art form and a form of literature, and sarcasm is a technique used within satire. Satire usually has a general message behind the piece, while sarcasm is a literary tool without deep meaning.
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  38. 1)Since satire adapts and changes over time due to current events/issues it always seems to be relevant and will be of interest for a long time. Frequently in life we look to humor/humor about others for relief and since satire porvides that, people use it better themselves.
    2)Saying that satire "doesnt destroy but rebuilds" is also like saying it doesnt take a serious piece of writing and make it worse, but actually rebuild it and make it better.While using humor as its main drive, satire looks to provide constructive criticism to a previous piece of writing.
    3)Relating to being conservative, satire seeks to protect the common good and to conserve the natureal morals of society.
    4)It is important to provide a difference between satire and sarcasm because the goal of satire is to correct or make better whereas sarcasm doesnt

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  39. 1. Satire is something that, even when the popular style of writing changes, will still be in the spotlight to give insight and clarity on the right and wrong of the world.
    2. Satire can be used to make fun of someone or something, while at the same time providing ideas of how to change the world.
    3. Satire is called conservative because it shows the right way to do things in the world and keep traditions in place.
    4. Sarcasm is mockery and hurtfulness, while Satire is trying to show the need for change.

    Max Rutkiewicz

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  40. ***What do you think the first definition means when it states that satire is "durable?"
    Satire has stood the test of time. It is just as humorous and effective now as it was 100 years ago, and will continue to be durable, as there will always be situations where something is wrong, and there will always be someone to make fun of it.

    ***First, paraphrase the statement that satire is a "constructive art that seeks not merely to destroy, but to rebuild," then, explain how you see satire accomplishing that goal.
    Paraphrase: Satire hurts, but it hurts to help. Satire points out how completely terrible or stupid things are in such a harsh way so that we have to think about it and make it better.

    ***Why does the second definition call satire conservative? (Think about our political understanding of what it means to be conservative in this country--how does that relate to satire??)
    Satire is not conservative in form, but conservative in ideology. While it is showy, over-the-top, and even radical in its execution, the final result is the promotion of ideals that most of us would hold to be traditional and good.

    ***Why is it important to make a distinction between satire and sarcasm?
    They are often thought to be the same thing, but since they work to achieve very different ends, and have very different uses, they cannot be called the same thing. It's similar to making the distinction between a square and a rectangle. Sometimes they are the same thing, but not always, and its very important to know which is which when they aren't.

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  41. 1. Its effect can be used for a long time, no matter the content or subject.
    2. Satire is used to improve something, not to criticize it. It can be critical/harsh short term, but for the long term it is meant to change something and improve it.
    3. It maintains basic traditions and brings out the wrongs in society as well.
    4. The purpose of satire is not only to mock something, but to make a correction to it. Sarcasm just uses irony to mock something or someone.
    Dylan Latham

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  42. 1. It means that satire is able to with stand criticism from outside sources because its bringing out a more important topic or sentence.
    2. Well satire is made to be able to show others what is wrong with certain ideas and how they are thought about in our society today.
    3. it shown as conservative because it does not always just flat out state what they are trying to show us, its uses stuff like sarcasm to make it more obvious that what they are talking about is a lie and is actually the other way around.
    4. satire is used to inform others around you while sarcasm is just a relief system to make things funnier.

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  43. 1. Satire is very effective, when done well. Humor is very widely appreciated and being able to use it to attempt to persuade is very useful. This makes satire rather timeless. As long as people have some sense of humor, and the intelligence to catch on to the message which the author is implying, then satire can still survive. There are always vices and follies to point out and hold up for ridicule, so satire will always have a purpose. Another way in which satire is durable is the way it protects the author. Satire is indirect, which gives the author some level of deniability, which is always useful when the subject is something more controversial.

    2. Satire doesn’t merely attack an issue, sure it takes swings at the subject like other forms of argument do, but satire does so for the purpose of correcting or improving the subject. Going back to the Mickey Mouse beating up the Jonas Brothers example from South Park, the writer for that piece probably was hoping to get people to see the bad parts of Disney, and perhaps do something about it, rather than just make fun of a few grown men getting beaten bloody by a mouse.

    3. Being conservative, generally means holding true to established traditions. Vices and follies are generally things which go against the normal traditions and acceptable behavior within a society and satire is used to subtly take stabs at them. So from that point of view satire could be seen as conservative, because of how it attacks things which break from tradition.

    4. Because the purpose each of them has is different. Satire, like mentioned before doesn’t merely attack things the way sarcasm does. Sarcasm just makes fun of something, and is closer to being a simple insult. Satire tries to improve things, rather than just mocking it. I feel the best way of looking at it is; Satire is (harsh) constructive criticism, sarcasm is an insult.

    -Trevor Halligan

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  44. 1.Satire is always relevant because its meant to force people to question a part of society. It wouldn't be effective if it wasn't relevant. it also plays a pivotal role in persuasion.
    2. Satire uses humor to criticize a topic or issue, but satires main purpose is to force people to think about the topic or issue being criticized.
    3. Satire is conservative in that it only gives you enough info to understand it. It doesn't explain the topic in great detail it expects you to be relatively intelligent.
    4. Satire always has an underlying purpose or message whereas Sarcasm is simply verbal mockery. Sarcasm is often used in satire to convey the underlying message

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  45. 1. When Satire is said to be durable; in my honest opinion i belive it isnt. I feel satire is completly situational and is present now because of the state of life we are in today. I think stuff thats funny now wont be necessarily funny. I just think that over time things will become less humorous and eventually die off.
    2. Satire seeks to rebuild insted of destroy because its like constructive critisim where it points ou the flaws and wishes for the person it is directed at to take a step back and look at what the have done and how silly it can be.
    3. Thats the thing satire isnt conservative but it does restreain a bit to a piont form being just mean but that statment is intended to be sarcastic i feel.

    4. The differience between sarcasim and satire is that sarcasim is a fourm of satire and that sarcasim is a false statment and satire is the hard cold truth that almost pokes fun of them to prove a point.

    You know who it is front row 6th hour

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  46. 1)Satire is durable in the sense that it will never go away and when picked apart for the meaning it still delivers a laugh.
    2) Satire helps point out the issues while presenting a soulution rapped in a sarcastice tone. - Satire does so by helping to state what others find a sensitive topic and help creates us see it in a different light.
    3)They both dont allow other information to deture its purpose.
    4) Sarcasm does not make the reader/ listener think, it simple makes fun of an issue in sometimes a vendictive way. While Satire helps point out an issue and has the reader/listener think about ways to solve it while doing so in a light hearted tone.


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